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CTU board again votes to put VP Dallas on trial Sun Times
That vote was held at the end of a nearly three-hour meeting. Again, the executive board voted that Dallas should stand trial. The board set a date for August.
City teachers union to try vice president Tribune
The Chicago Teachers Union executive board voted 32-4 Monday to go forward with proceedings to remove the vice president after allegations surfaced that he may have misspent more than $6,200 on meals and liquor.
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Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 11:18 AM
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If the executive board vote was 32 to 4 to go forward with the trial, I thought there was 5 votes for Ted Dallas?
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM
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What did the picket signs say?
"Let Dallas Go. He didn't steal as much as Marilyn!"
"Ted is only a little crooked"
You people are making a mockery of my profession. Enough already!
"Let Dallas Go. He didn't steal as much as Marilyn!"
"Ted is only a little crooked"
You people are making a mockery of my profession. Enough already!
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM
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Hmmm...are you sure you read those picket signs accurately?
Also, a much stronger case can be made for the current CTU leadership making a mockery of the profession compared to a few picketers who desire transparency, a membership driven Union, legitimate flow of information, and responsible fiscal policy (which includes preventing yet another lawsuit that will result in gobs of legal fees and eventual payout).
Also, a much stronger case can be made for the current CTU leadership making a mockery of the profession compared to a few picketers who desire transparency, a membership driven Union, legitimate flow of information, and responsible fiscal policy (which includes preventing yet another lawsuit that will result in gobs of legal fees and eventual payout).
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM
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Are you calling picketting a mockery of our profession? How about taking our hard earned dues and spending them without accountability while we work under oppressive conditions? Frankly, that's a snub to the profession.
Just goes to show how Marilyn supporters don't believe in democracy.
Transparency for all union staff members!
Just goes to show how Marilyn supporters don't believe in democracy.
Transparency for all union staff members!
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM
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That is why the Exec board had to sneak its way thru another entrance and sneak out yesterday. Why are they eating non-union sandwiches from subway?
True Transparency and accountability.
If the Dallas trial was so righteous I would walk thru the front entrance and say to confront the protesters. But as we know it is a fake trial to cover up the larger union capitulation with the board in the school closings.
June 30, 2008 about 650 people lost their jobs due to transformations and closings.
Instead if the union organizing a job action they spent union dues money on a fake trial that they will lose in the circuit court of cook county in a few years. Look at the poltrock history of cases against the union.
We estimate the the union might have already spent $50,000 on the dallas removal to date. that is only an estimate. it may be less but it probably is more.
Who approved these expenditures for this fake trial?
Who approved the poltrock law firm to represent the union against another union member?
technically the union is going to have to pay for dallas's legal cost too because he is still a union member.
It was obvious to us on the picket line that the union does not care about accountability, transparency or justice.
If Stewart cared about the union she would have organized a picket against the board yesterday. In stead she wasted the dues money of the rank and file members.
Wait til later in the week there are some nice financial documents from go promotions that will be posted soon.
True Transparency and accountability.
If the Dallas trial was so righteous I would walk thru the front entrance and say to confront the protesters. But as we know it is a fake trial to cover up the larger union capitulation with the board in the school closings.
June 30, 2008 about 650 people lost their jobs due to transformations and closings.
Instead if the union organizing a job action they spent union dues money on a fake trial that they will lose in the circuit court of cook county in a few years. Look at the poltrock history of cases against the union.
We estimate the the union might have already spent $50,000 on the dallas removal to date. that is only an estimate. it may be less but it probably is more.
Who approved these expenditures for this fake trial?
Who approved the poltrock law firm to represent the union against another union member?
technically the union is going to have to pay for dallas's legal cost too because he is still a union member.
It was obvious to us on the picket line that the union does not care about accountability, transparency or justice.
If Stewart cared about the union she would have organized a picket against the board yesterday. In stead she wasted the dues money of the rank and file members.
Wait til later in the week there are some nice financial documents from go promotions that will be posted soon.
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 1:13 PM
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I agree with almost all of the sentiments above except that picketing is anti-union. It is dumb of Marilyn and the Exec. Bd. to think that this time it will be different. It is dumb of Marilyn and the Exec. Bd. not to question a law firm that loses most of their cases. It is dumb or criminal of Marilyn and her people to waste precious time on this trial instead of defending the jobs of members.
I would like this contraversy to go away so we're not wasting time fighting among ourselves but Marilyn drew the line and those of us who believe in democracy have to fight to defend it.
Marilyn open the records of yourself and all other officers. That is the best way to end this debate. What are you afraid of?
I would like this contraversy to go away so we're not wasting time fighting among ourselves but Marilyn drew the line and those of us who believe in democracy have to fight to defend it.
Marilyn open the records of yourself and all other officers. That is the best way to end this debate. What are you afraid of?
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 4:42 PM
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Let's get the GoPromotions invoices posted. I'm sure they are doing some work for the AFT convention and let's not forget the upcoming Bud Billiken Parade. More Union dollars going down the drain!
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 6:38 PM
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As a charter school staff member, I am proud that I haven't paid a dime to fund these clowns through union dues!
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 7:01 PM
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Any chance GoProductions will be selling 'Dallas Cheerleader' t-shirts and hats?
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM
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It's not about the picketing.
It's about the fact you are picketing supporting a scumbag.
It's about the fact you are picketing supporting a scumbag.
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 10:24 PM
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.. picketing against a scumbag. It's a matter of opinion.
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 10:27 PM
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Did you ever think that the tight security was done by the Mart because they have thousands of other clients who pay rent in the building and don't want anyone to be hassled or harassed in their building? Many people own businesses there that have nothing to do with CTU issues and should not have to experience any type of negativity while doing business at the Mart.
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM
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Yes, teachers could be attacking other businesses in the Mart. They're known to do so.
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM
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I said disturbing, not attacking. As usual, you cannot accept any comment without twisting it from its original intention into something totally different. That's why many people have stopped participating on this blog.
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM
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Thank you for not participating.Do not disturb..yourself.
Whom you know and whom you blow?
Whom you know and whom you blow?
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 10:55 PM
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"Yes, teachers could be attacking other businesses in the Mart."
Maybe we'll be evicted and they can move CTU offices somewhere with free parking so us MEMBERS WILL HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO OUR "LEADERSHIP."
Maybe somewhere with REASONABLE RENT SO WE CAN USE MEMBERS DUES FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSES, not just so our "LEADERS" can tell their old teacher friends that they WORK DOWNTOWN.
Maybe we'll be evicted and they can move CTU offices somewhere with free parking so us MEMBERS WILL HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO OUR "LEADERSHIP."
Maybe somewhere with REASONABLE RENT SO WE CAN USE MEMBERS DUES FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSES, not just so our "LEADERS" can tell their old teacher friends that they WORK DOWNTOWN.
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM
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They ALL get their gas paid for too. Doesn't that make everyone feel really good?
Tue Jul 1, 2008 at 11:49 PM
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own a building all we would have to get it rezoned for business on two or three floors.
just got to stop the group from wanting to sell it.
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=fewkestower-chicago-il-usa
just got to stop the group from wanting to sell it.
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=fewkestower-chicago-il-usa
Wed Jul 2, 2008 at 1:32 AM
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This is not dumb. It is what must be done.
I'm sorry that I wasn't there to participate in the picketing.
I'm sorry that I wasn't there to participate in the picketing.
Wed Jul 2, 2008 at 7:30 AM
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It is my understanding that we never exercised our rights in violent manner.
Just wake up and be realistics.
She will go as far as we let her .
Wake up people. I strongly believe that many ExBoard members are confused at this time. The UPC is not a group of idiots as expected to be.
I strongly believe that they do not like to be a part of RICO investigation.
Just wake up and be realistics.
She will go as far as we let her .
Wake up people. I strongly believe that many ExBoard members are confused at this time. The UPC is not a group of idiots as expected to be.
I strongly believe that they do not like to be a part of RICO investigation.
Wed Jul 2, 2008 at 9:14 AM
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As one of the protestors, I can tell you that the majority are not interested in a petty $6,000 issue. We know well that the 8 million dollar looted treasury is at stake. If you want to go after Ted Dallas, fine, but open ALL THE BOOKS!! Let's see every officer's receipts.
Wed Jul 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM
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Teachers as a whole have never participated in violent actions against anyone. Except in the very early days, picket lines for strikes have all been peaceful. We have the right and obligation to peacefully demonstrate when we believe a wrong has been or is being committed.
Ted may be a scumbag and I am not defending him but rather two principles. First, if his books have been opened up to teachers and other people then so should the books of all officers. If his accusers could gain access to this information, I should be able to go to the office and go through the financial records of Marilyn and all other officers. If not, then this is a political, personal attack that cannot be allowed. Second, Ted is a elected officers and it should take a vote of at least the House of Delegates to remove him.
Ted may be a scumbag and I am not defending him but rather two principles. First, if his books have been opened up to teachers and other people then so should the books of all officers. If his accusers could gain access to this information, I should be able to go to the office and go through the financial records of Marilyn and all other officers. If not, then this is a political, personal attack that cannot be allowed. Second, Ted is a elected officers and it should take a vote of at least the House of Delegates to remove him.
Wed Jul 2, 2008 at 9:27 PM
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Is it true that ..our Quinn will be subpoenaed as well as Genova?
Is it true that federal prosecutor is involved(RICO)?
Is it true that Cannella wants to be a President and McGuire as well?
Kick out Dallas than Stewart and we are on the top....
Is it true that Dallas will sue Union for an 1 million if prosecuted by the ExBoard?
Is it true that ExBoard members will be monetary liable for the harm they caused to the Union?
Is it true that federal prosecutor is involved(RICO)?
Is it true that Cannella wants to be a President and McGuire as well?
Kick out Dallas than Stewart and we are on the top....
Is it true that Dallas will sue Union for an 1 million if prosecuted by the ExBoard?
Is it true that ExBoard members will be monetary liable for the harm they caused to the Union?
Wed Jul 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM
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Arne Duncan Speaks on City Desk
...read more
One Guess.
What website is this posted on?
the union website!
We are now promoting the CEO of the chicago public schools.
No commentary, no sarcasm, no message explaining what the union is doing posting videos of the ceo of the schools with union resources.
if anyone needed any more evidence of collusion of ctu with cps here it is.
our dues money paying to promote the school board!
It is time to bring up Stewart on charges of collusion and collaboration with the school board to use union funds and resources against the interests of the rank and file members.
June 30, 2008 the school board closed, transformed and reconstituted 650 people out of their jobs!
Now we are posting him on our website!
When you thought you have seen it all.
When you thought it could not get worse.
It does!
and they said Dallas put the union in disrepute when he said F--- y-- to a cps administrator!
go-promotions docs are being vetted by attorneys for release.
...read more
One Guess.
What website is this posted on?
the union website!
We are now promoting the CEO of the chicago public schools.
No commentary, no sarcasm, no message explaining what the union is doing posting videos of the ceo of the schools with union resources.
if anyone needed any more evidence of collusion of ctu with cps here it is.
our dues money paying to promote the school board!
It is time to bring up Stewart on charges of collusion and collaboration with the school board to use union funds and resources against the interests of the rank and file members.
June 30, 2008 the school board closed, transformed and reconstituted 650 people out of their jobs!
Now we are posting him on our website!
When you thought you have seen it all.
When you thought it could not get worse.
It does!
and they said Dallas put the union in disrepute when he said F--- y-- to a cps administrator!
go-promotions docs are being vetted by attorneys for release.
Wed Jul 2, 2008 at 10:53 PM
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It is a way to make people angry on the Union.Remember YOU are the Union not a group of crooks.Just clean your house.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 1:42 AM
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John Kugler writes: "We are now promoting the CEO of the chicago public schools. No commentary, no sarcasm, no message explaining what the union is doing posting videos of the ceo of the schools with union resources. if anyone needed any more evidence of collusion of ctu with cps here it is. our dues money paying to promote the school board!"
What the heck are you talking about? It looks like the webmaster cleared out alot of old posts, thenfinding the page looking rather empty inserted a hyperlink to the Channel 5 website where the video clip was posted.
That doesn't cost the union a dime. The video is not on the CTU website; it's on the Channel 5 website, and they are paying for the bandwidth when people download and watch their local news spot.
If you viewed the video, it was a rather benign piece. There was no discussion of the Union, Ren10, charters, position closings, or anything controversial. Basically, he was repeating that tired old line about Illinois being 48th in education and how we need the legislature to give us more money.
There are plenty of substantive issues where the CTU is not providing member services. But seizing on folderol like a hyperlink to a news program makes your rant look like...This Is All So Dumb.
What the heck are you talking about? It looks like the webmaster cleared out alot of old posts, thenfinding the page looking rather empty inserted a hyperlink to the Channel 5 website where the video clip was posted.
That doesn't cost the union a dime. The video is not on the CTU website; it's on the Channel 5 website, and they are paying for the bandwidth when people download and watch their local news spot.
If you viewed the video, it was a rather benign piece. There was no discussion of the Union, Ren10, charters, position closings, or anything controversial. Basically, he was repeating that tired old line about Illinois being 48th in education and how we need the legislature to give us more money.
There are plenty of substantive issues where the CTU is not providing member services. But seizing on folderol like a hyperlink to a news program makes your rant look like...This Is All So Dumb.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 3:28 AM
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It costs to have someone work on the site.
It costs to host the site.
It costs the membership valuable information they should be getting other than arne interviews.
It costs the membership because now it looks like they cannot mange the site with proper news that is directly related to the union.
Danny you paying the dues to keep up that site? i am sure if you paid for a pay-for-view 10 round fight you'd be pissed if it was over in 30 seconds.
Well there is no fight, there is no thirty seconds, there is only a boat show talking about the the new colors for the Fab-Tech line this year.
I do pay for that site.
It costs to host the site.
It costs the membership valuable information they should be getting other than arne interviews.
It costs the membership because now it looks like they cannot mange the site with proper news that is directly related to the union.
Danny you paying the dues to keep up that site? i am sure if you paid for a pay-for-view 10 round fight you'd be pissed if it was over in 30 seconds.
Well there is no fight, there is no thirty seconds, there is only a boat show talking about the the new colors for the Fab-Tech line this year.
I do pay for that site.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 3:31 AM
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yeah they cleared out that MS letter about the charges
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 6:59 AM
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The union website appears to not have been updated since June 30th. Members DO pay for that site. Members DO have a right to unfiltered information. Members DO have a right to have information that is current. The question is, why is that not happening?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 7:37 AM
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I agree with John. We are paying for the site and this kind of information/link is not fair to the membership. We come on the site looking for news about the Union not the CEO trying to promote his own programs. I want to see news about the Union actions (even some reasons why they are going against Ted so that I can try to understand their side), news about why no other officer's documents are available for review, news about why services are not being provided to members, news about why retired teachers are being ignored and pushed aside after years of dedicated service, news about what they are going to do to fight school closings and the loss of jobs. News about the denial of services to SPED students and their parents. News about the violence and deplorable physical conditions in many schools. They can't or won't provide this so they settle on this video instead hoping that it will distract us.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 8:20 AM
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Your requests are not unrealistic. But I think the reality is it is going to get worse, not better. Members will have to research the case against Ted on their own. Members will have to demand information. 30,000+ members have got to take a stand against Stewart, McGuire, Ochoa, Ostenburg and Genova...5 people who fail to come clean or, when they do, put a spin that is solely to their benefit.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 8:21 AM
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The leadership of the Union is constantly in fight.You will see more changes at the Mart.Ted is the only piece of the plan.Members of the CTU have no idea what is going on.
Please visit the WWW.COALITIONSDU.ORG.Tell us what do you want to see-we are going to publish everything.
We do not like the propaganda.You see genuine documents ,posts without censorship.Please educate yourself in order to make a judgment for your action in order to survive.The ExBoard members
are invited ,too.Lets work together again-otherwise the CTU will be erased from the City political map.
The Stewart's mission will be accomplished.Do not let her retire with the fat pension on your expenses.
Please visit the WWW.COALITIONSDU.ORG.Tell us what do you want to see-we are going to publish everything.
We do not like the propaganda.You see genuine documents ,posts without censorship.Please educate yourself in order to make a judgment for your action in order to survive.The ExBoard members
are invited ,too.Lets work together again-otherwise the CTU will be erased from the City political map.
The Stewart's mission will be accomplished.Do not let her retire with the fat pension on your expenses.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 9:24 AM
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For starters, everything on the CTU website obviously gets approved by the "queen bee" herself. Otherwise we would be able to find unfiltered information. We would also be able to post comments, have a blog etc. This further proves that the "bee" is controlling everything, including what members see and hear. As a teacher I have actually found some very useful information on there re:websites, events etc. However, if we ever want to have an unfiltered website it will have to be done by the teachers. FYI the cost to host a website is pennies compared to the cost of that enormous colored CTU magazine/paper that comes out to us. Wonder how much that costs? Not to mention it is filled with pics of the "bee" and information that is only useful to my garbage can. To be honest, I am so tired of reading all of these complaints. It is time for someone to take lead, get everyone together and start a class action law suit. ALL of their records, receipts etc. need to be looked at. It only takes I believe one person to file a class action law suit. If I had the capabilities and knew the right people I would be happy to work on this. Thus, someone please take the lead, contact the delegates from each school and lets get something going vs. wasting our time blowing smoke. I want my dues back. According to the IL Educational Labor Relations Board the union is guilty of unfair labor practices. LETS GO PEOPLE!!!!
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 9:33 AM
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To "is it true": None of your statements above are true. You have a vivid imagination. Why are you trying to intimidate members of the executive board?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 9:50 AM
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I would support a lawsuit too but don't know the right people. I agree that someone needs to take the lead. Per the comment from
truth. If you really knew what the word meant, you would be censoring Marilyn and the other officers for not disclosing their financial information.
truth. If you really knew what the word meant, you would be censoring Marilyn and the other officers for not disclosing their financial information.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 9:53 AM
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The link is gone now.
The posts that they do not know what they are doing or do not have the resources is false.
That is why i posted in the middle the early morning to see if they are monitoring the blogs and have control of the ctu website.
they do understand what they are doing. i got the website date stamped and when it was removed.
Again, the point is that they are misusing union resources for political gain or in the their case mis-calculations. Every move they make is a mistake starting with the x-mas card to dallas.
That should have been handled in house.
bad advice. but we know one law firm that has made money just on that decision alone.
Poof!
Now you see it!
Now you don't!
The posts that they do not know what they are doing or do not have the resources is false.
That is why i posted in the middle the early morning to see if they are monitoring the blogs and have control of the ctu website.
they do understand what they are doing. i got the website date stamped and when it was removed.
Again, the point is that they are misusing union resources for political gain or in the their case mis-calculations. Every move they make is a mistake starting with the x-mas card to dallas.
That should have been handled in house.
bad advice. but we know one law firm that has made money just on that decision alone.
Poof!
Now you see it!
Now you don't!
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM
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Looks like somebody has good inside information.Remember the ExBoard members participate in illegal action knowingly and willfully..Retain an attorney and just ask about the monetary claims possible..ask a lawyer and than think how much you are going to contribute to your Queen without your consent..out of your pocket.....because of the court order..go ahead and check..
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 10:17 AM
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To: Truth RE: Is it true posted at 10:12 A.M.
Is that a threat?
Is that a threat?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 10:29 AM
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Dear member:
It is not a threat .It is just friendly reminder to ask attorney before you act.Just advice to educate yourself and others as well.
You can do whatever, I think.
Nobody is making any comment you may perceive as a threat under one condition:you have to believe that your action is legitimate.. taking legal action is not a threat ..ask your lawyer..
It is not a threat .It is just friendly reminder to ask attorney before you act.Just advice to educate yourself and others as well.
You can do whatever, I think.
Nobody is making any comment you may perceive as a threat under one condition:you have to believe that your action is legitimate.. taking legal action is not a threat ..ask your lawyer..
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM
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Earlier Post:
"I want to see news about the Union actions (even some reasons why they are going against Ted so that I can try to understand their side), news about why no other officer's documents are available for review, news about why services are not being provided to members, news about why retired teachers are being ignored and pushed aside after years of dedicated service, news about what they are going to do to fight school closings and the loss of jobs. News about the denial of services to SPED students and their parents. News about the violence and deplorable physical conditions in many schools. "
Me too! But how do we do anything about these things? I am afraid say anything even on this blog. I have been punished for talking before and it is not fun. Obviously the Union is no longer in the business of protecting teachers (ie. the teachers at Harper, Orr, etc.). What should we do?
"I want to see news about the Union actions (even some reasons why they are going against Ted so that I can try to understand their side), news about why no other officer's documents are available for review, news about why services are not being provided to members, news about why retired teachers are being ignored and pushed aside after years of dedicated service, news about what they are going to do to fight school closings and the loss of jobs. News about the denial of services to SPED students and their parents. News about the violence and deplorable physical conditions in many schools. "
Me too! But how do we do anything about these things? I am afraid say anything even on this blog. I have been punished for talking before and it is not fun. Obviously the Union is no longer in the business of protecting teachers (ie. the teachers at Harper, Orr, etc.). What should we do?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM
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It sounds to me like a threat. Are you saying that you intend to sue members of the Exec Bd?
What does your statement mean about taking legal action?
Are you trying to intimidate me?
What does your statement mean about taking legal action?
Are you trying to intimidate me?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 11:18 AM
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Cornyn staffer used fake name to 'troll' on blogs
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday July 2, 2008(edited)
.......a new controversy had arisen around Beckwith, with his unmasking by Burnt Orange Report as "Buck Smith," who had been posting both there and at other sites since 2007 in support of Cornyn's campaign.
Glazer wrote, "Many of you have become familiar with user Buck Smith's abusive comments that troll the site, attack and personally insult users and writers, and impugn the integrity of our community, our Democratic candidates and our Democratic values. . . . In the interest of full disclosure, and in order to keep everything fair, and since Buck Smith has not disclosed who he is, we thought we would clue you in that he is David Beckwith, John Cornyn's senior staffer. We found out his identity because Mr. Beckwith's email on file with the site is the same email listed on the webpage for his high school reunion class."
"That's unethical at best," Glazer explained to KVUE-TV in Austin, "because he was trying to do it as a paid staffer for the campaign. ...
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Wednesday July 2, 2008(edited)
.......a new controversy had arisen around Beckwith, with his unmasking by Burnt Orange Report as "Buck Smith," who had been posting both there and at other sites since 2007 in support of Cornyn's campaign.
Glazer wrote, "Many of you have become familiar with user Buck Smith's abusive comments that troll the site, attack and personally insult users and writers, and impugn the integrity of our community, our Democratic candidates and our Democratic values. . . . In the interest of full disclosure, and in order to keep everything fair, and since Buck Smith has not disclosed who he is, we thought we would clue you in that he is David Beckwith, John Cornyn's senior staffer. We found out his identity because Mr. Beckwith's email on file with the site is the same email listed on the webpage for his high school reunion class."
"That's unethical at best," Glazer explained to KVUE-TV in Austin, "because he was trying to do it as a paid staffer for the campaign. ...
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 11:25 AM
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Are you brave enough to put your name up here on this blog? Seems to me that fair is fair. The names of the Executive Board Members are out there in the open. How we vote is also public record. Why don't you come out and put your name out there too?
Are you a troll?
Are you a troll?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM
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How do you know that?Wow.I am an ExBdMember The question is which Board...Parole Board maybe..you definitely will need me anyway . Sooner than you think
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 11:46 AM
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Read above"under condition:you have to believe that your action is legitimate" So are you believe that your action is ILLEGITIMATE and afraid about consequences?Explain please.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 12:26 PM
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when maricat asked about expenditures, we will definitely know what she spent like stamps used illegally. Phony numbers to govt. agencies. Be careful what you asked for babe
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 2:53 PM
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Does this make any sense?
By: we will get you
What is your name?
"We will get you" sounds like another threat to me.
Why don't you say who you are?
Are you threatening members of the CTU Executive Board?
Are you trying to intimidate members of the CTU Executive Bd?
By: we will get you
What is your name?
"We will get you" sounds like another threat to me.
Why don't you say who you are?
Are you threatening members of the CTU Executive Board?
Are you trying to intimidate members of the CTU Executive Bd?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 3:17 PM
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The House of Delegates must not allow the UPC to oust CTU’s elected vice-president, Ted Dallas, without prior approval by the House of Delegates. Neither may the CTU expel him from Membership without a recommendation to the House of Delegates and subject to a two-thirds vote to expel under Robert’s Rules of Order.
The By-laws leave no doubt on this issue, as Art. VIII, Sec. 1 states categorically:
The Executive Board shall be directly responsible to the House of Delegates and shall report all official acts thereto with such recommendations as it deems desirable.”
If the Leadership ignores this clear obligation then any Delegate would have standing to go to court to make the Leadership abide by this mandate. Failure to do so would justify going to court and to charge the Leadership with breach of contract with the Delegates for violating the contract of the By-laws.
It is ironic that the old UPC, which is anti-George W. Bush, is, in this case, acting like Bush—bush league and as arrogant at Plumber’s Hall as Bush is with Congress. Maybe President
Stewart, like President George Bush, should avoid the arrogance of power, which is unjust be it the arrogance of the U.S. president or a union president.
Gerald Adler, CTU retiree member and former delegate
The By-laws leave no doubt on this issue, as Art. VIII, Sec. 1 states categorically:
The Executive Board shall be directly responsible to the House of Delegates and shall report all official acts thereto with such recommendations as it deems desirable.”
If the Leadership ignores this clear obligation then any Delegate would have standing to go to court to make the Leadership abide by this mandate. Failure to do so would justify going to court and to charge the Leadership with breach of contract with the Delegates for violating the contract of the By-laws.
It is ironic that the old UPC, which is anti-George W. Bush, is, in this case, acting like Bush—bush league and as arrogant at Plumber’s Hall as Bush is with Congress. Maybe President
Stewart, like President George Bush, should avoid the arrogance of power, which is unjust be it the arrogance of the U.S. president or a union president.
Gerald Adler, CTU retiree member and former delegate
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 3:35 PM
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The real issue is that absolutley nothing may be done to Dallas without the prior approval of the House of Delegates to which the excecutive board is responsssible To bypass the by-llaws is a violation of our bylaws and court action wojld be advixed. Members must put their money where their mouths are and raise the money for court action. THIS MUST NOT STAND OR ELSE IT IS THE END OF THE CTU AS WE KNOW IT. The house is the supreme body and not a kangaroo court created by the misleadership of the Executive Board.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 6:11 PM
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To "We will get you"
Who are you referring to when you say "we will know what she spent." You use my name in the post so are you referring to me or Marilyn or who? If you are referring to me, I'm not afraid because I haven't done anything illegal. As a Union member, I have a perfect right to question the expenditures of officers--not their personal money but those that belong to the Union.
Who are you referring to when you say "we will know what she spent." You use my name in the post so are you referring to me or Marilyn or who? If you are referring to me, I'm not afraid because I haven't done anything illegal. As a Union member, I have a perfect right to question the expenditures of officers--not their personal money but those that belong to the Union.
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 7:34 PM
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I am confused.Innocent people have no reason to complain about threads,intimidation etc.
Are you afraid because you know that you are guilty of something?
What the word "something"means at this time?
Are you afraid because you know that you are guilty of something?
What the word "something"means at this time?
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 7:46 PM
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Dear Marricat:
I strongly believe that you are little oversensitive .
I believe that such comments were directed to Marilyn,of course.
Have a great 4th of July,
Chris
I strongly believe that you are little oversensitive .
I believe that such comments were directed to Marilyn,of course.
Have a great 4th of July,
Chris
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 8:58 PM
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Happy fourth of July. Everybody who knows you, loves you.Total Eggremment from all!!!
Thu Jul 3, 2008 at 9:25 PM
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Thanks Gerry, for pointing out the obvious. The Constitution and the By-Laws have taken a beating for the last few years. Let's abide by them, including the portion that addresses the officers' pay. It has to pass by a 2/3 majority. The vote taken in June, even as reported is hardly a 2/3 majority.
Fri Jul 4, 2008 at 4:06 AM
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If the feds are now investigating the Marilyn Stewart administration under the RICO statute, hasn't Marilyn given away not only the financial well being of the Chicago Teachers Union but our reputation?
One of the reasons why thousands of us are becoming more enraged over the craven work of the Executive Board is not only that each member of the EB represents a constituent group, but that all of the EB members now know that the bigger financial questions about the financial stewardship of the Stewart years have nothing to do with a handful of receipts from the Vice President's expenses (after all, the answer from May 28, when the EB first went roaring out into the woods on this Snipe Hunt was: "So tell him to pay them back!"), but millions of dollars in legal fees since 2004, hundreds of thousands of dollars in no-bid contracts to "Go Promotions" and what appears to be an unsupervised series of patronage subsidies from the membership to the hard-core of Stewart's dwindling group of supporters.
One other thing, if UPC had not cheated so wildly during last summer's vote for the retiree functional vice president seat on the Executive Board (that's well documented, and we also put it into print), I would have been inside at that meeting (instead of having that unnecessary confrontation with Mart security, which was shameful because it put those people in a position on behalf of Marilyn Stewart that they shouldn't have been in), but reporting that the retiree members want the union to represent their interests and those of the regular members -- and end immediately this witch hunt being hyped up against the union's Vice President. That's the actual polling from one "functional group" (the largest with only one Executive Board seat, by the way). Yet the functional vice president representing that large and very experienced group is simply (and slavishly) following Marilyn Stewart, rather than her constituents.
But as the absences and the votes against Stewart showed (despite all the rudeness) Monday, that phalanx is cracking, and fast. The phones and e-mails show the same things. It's even beginning to sound like a significant minority of the Executive Board members are having second thoughts, although only a minority had the courage to either vote against Marilyn's latest kangaroo court or be absent.
If I continue to be asked by EB members (on the side, "Off the record" of course) what to do and I cared enough about the person asking the question to give a serious answer, I'd say, two things:
1. A BOARD HAS LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES, AND YOU HAVE FAILED TO CARRY OUT YOURS. Study the corporate histories of Boards that fail in their fiduciary responsibility to their entity. One of the most dramatic examples in recent Chicago corporate history has been the failure of James Thompson to perform his duties as a director of Hollinger International during the years Conrad Black was looting the parent company that owned the Chicago Sun-Times. Black's in prison, but every director should at least have been made a lot more uncomfortable than Thompson (who also chaired the "audit committee") was. Corporate boards have legal responsibilities, and those responsibilities are not to be ridiculous looking rubber stamps for the "CEO". (And, by the way, the members of the Chicago Teachers Union don't elect a "CEO" every three years, despite Marilyn Stewart's current fantasy; a president has different responsibilities, and once this "CEO" nonsense took hold at CTU, the rest was that part of history usually remembered as farce).
2. NOT WHAT YOU'VE AVOIDED THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES, CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES. Get a lawyer, and not one Marilyn Stewart recommends. Every member of the Executive Board has a clear legal responsibility to the membership -- not to the caucus that slated them! Every member of the Executive Board has clearly defined duties to represent either a functional group or a function (in the case of the trustees). Instead of forming a jeering section Monday night, every one of you should have been trying to stop that meeting by demanding that the union give you the time and resources to communicate with your members -- in the complete context of your job -- and find out what the members wanted.
After all, while you were charging out against Ted Dallas, somebody let someone loot between $5 million and $7 million from CTU, liquidate the reserves, and, according to reliable sources, waste at least a quarter million dollars on no bid deals to buy Dollar Store stuff (union label?) from a politically connected outfit (puns intended).
Nicely, now, that stupid record is official.
And you managed to do it in the open in less than 45 days, after doing it in relative secrecy for almost four years.
So all of the antics and childishness from the May 28, 2008 Executive Board meeting, through the June 4 House of Delegates meeting (and that completely rigged vote count), through the June 30, 2008 Executive Board jeering section is now a clear matter of public record, at least for the CTU members (on whose behalf you are fiduciaries; not just the trustees, which is a real hoot at this point).
History of corporate corruption has a kind of boomerang way about it. The arrogance of power, followed by hard times and the screaming for scalps.
I'm sure seven years ago, when James Thompson was on the Sun-Times Board (in the company of people like Margaret Thatcher and Henry Kissinger; Contrad Black has a unique sense of humor) nobody at Hollinger International (at least in the inner circle) thought with all their clout that any reckoning would every come. But after Hollinger's stock plunged from $16 a share (if my memory serves right) to its current price (as "Sun Times Media Group) of about 45 cents a share, people had to begin paying attention.
In retrospect, what's going to be amazing is how so many supposedly intelligent people got caught up in a cult-like frenzy and allowed such a pure record of ignorance or corruption or both to be established with their willing participation.
But there should be no tears for the poor Kellis of this world.
Instead, remember that on the day the members of the Chicago Teachers Union Executive Board were cat calling and jeering Ted Dallas and his lawyer, hundreds of teachers were being humiliated and fired by CPS under "Turnaround." The Executive Board should certainly have been in emergency session on June 30, 2008.
But not to continue covering up for the corruption and stupidity of the Stewart administration. To fight CPS as the Duncan administration once again destroyed the lives and reputation of veteran teachers (and other union members) behind yet another corporate smokescreen of lies and expensive propaganda.
One of the reasons why thousands of us are becoming more enraged over the craven work of the Executive Board is not only that each member of the EB represents a constituent group, but that all of the EB members now know that the bigger financial questions about the financial stewardship of the Stewart years have nothing to do with a handful of receipts from the Vice President's expenses (after all, the answer from May 28, when the EB first went roaring out into the woods on this Snipe Hunt was: "So tell him to pay them back!"), but millions of dollars in legal fees since 2004, hundreds of thousands of dollars in no-bid contracts to "Go Promotions" and what appears to be an unsupervised series of patronage subsidies from the membership to the hard-core of Stewart's dwindling group of supporters.
One other thing, if UPC had not cheated so wildly during last summer's vote for the retiree functional vice president seat on the Executive Board (that's well documented, and we also put it into print), I would have been inside at that meeting (instead of having that unnecessary confrontation with Mart security, which was shameful because it put those people in a position on behalf of Marilyn Stewart that they shouldn't have been in), but reporting that the retiree members want the union to represent their interests and those of the regular members -- and end immediately this witch hunt being hyped up against the union's Vice President. That's the actual polling from one "functional group" (the largest with only one Executive Board seat, by the way). Yet the functional vice president representing that large and very experienced group is simply (and slavishly) following Marilyn Stewart, rather than her constituents.
But as the absences and the votes against Stewart showed (despite all the rudeness) Monday, that phalanx is cracking, and fast. The phones and e-mails show the same things. It's even beginning to sound like a significant minority of the Executive Board members are having second thoughts, although only a minority had the courage to either vote against Marilyn's latest kangaroo court or be absent.
If I continue to be asked by EB members (on the side, "Off the record" of course) what to do and I cared enough about the person asking the question to give a serious answer, I'd say, two things:
1. A BOARD HAS LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES, AND YOU HAVE FAILED TO CARRY OUT YOURS. Study the corporate histories of Boards that fail in their fiduciary responsibility to their entity. One of the most dramatic examples in recent Chicago corporate history has been the failure of James Thompson to perform his duties as a director of Hollinger International during the years Conrad Black was looting the parent company that owned the Chicago Sun-Times. Black's in prison, but every director should at least have been made a lot more uncomfortable than Thompson (who also chaired the "audit committee") was. Corporate boards have legal responsibilities, and those responsibilities are not to be ridiculous looking rubber stamps for the "CEO". (And, by the way, the members of the Chicago Teachers Union don't elect a "CEO" every three years, despite Marilyn Stewart's current fantasy; a president has different responsibilities, and once this "CEO" nonsense took hold at CTU, the rest was that part of history usually remembered as farce).
2. NOT WHAT YOU'VE AVOIDED THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES, CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES. Get a lawyer, and not one Marilyn Stewart recommends. Every member of the Executive Board has a clear legal responsibility to the membership -- not to the caucus that slated them! Every member of the Executive Board has clearly defined duties to represent either a functional group or a function (in the case of the trustees). Instead of forming a jeering section Monday night, every one of you should have been trying to stop that meeting by demanding that the union give you the time and resources to communicate with your members -- in the complete context of your job -- and find out what the members wanted.
After all, while you were charging out against Ted Dallas, somebody let someone loot between $5 million and $7 million from CTU, liquidate the reserves, and, according to reliable sources, waste at least a quarter million dollars on no bid deals to buy Dollar Store stuff (union label?) from a politically connected outfit (puns intended).
Nicely, now, that stupid record is official.
And you managed to do it in the open in less than 45 days, after doing it in relative secrecy for almost four years.
So all of the antics and childishness from the May 28, 2008 Executive Board meeting, through the June 4 House of Delegates meeting (and that completely rigged vote count), through the June 30, 2008 Executive Board jeering section is now a clear matter of public record, at least for the CTU members (on whose behalf you are fiduciaries; not just the trustees, which is a real hoot at this point).
History of corporate corruption has a kind of boomerang way about it. The arrogance of power, followed by hard times and the screaming for scalps.
I'm sure seven years ago, when James Thompson was on the Sun-Times Board (in the company of people like Margaret Thatcher and Henry Kissinger; Contrad Black has a unique sense of humor) nobody at Hollinger International (at least in the inner circle) thought with all their clout that any reckoning would every come. But after Hollinger's stock plunged from $16 a share (if my memory serves right) to its current price (as "Sun Times Media Group) of about 45 cents a share, people had to begin paying attention.
In retrospect, what's going to be amazing is how so many supposedly intelligent people got caught up in a cult-like frenzy and allowed such a pure record of ignorance or corruption or both to be established with their willing participation.
But there should be no tears for the poor Kellis of this world.
Instead, remember that on the day the members of the Chicago Teachers Union Executive Board were cat calling and jeering Ted Dallas and his lawyer, hundreds of teachers were being humiliated and fired by CPS under "Turnaround." The Executive Board should certainly have been in emergency session on June 30, 2008.
But not to continue covering up for the corruption and stupidity of the Stewart administration. To fight CPS as the Duncan administration once again destroyed the lives and reputation of veteran teachers (and other union members) behind yet another corporate smokescreen of lies and expensive propaganda.
Fri Jul 4, 2008 at 8:43 AM
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Is it possible that the ExBd members will be jailed in the same location?
Is it possible that ExBd members will be forced to sell their personal properties in order to satisfy a court order?
Is it possible that ExBd members will be forced to sell their personal properties in order to satisfy a court order?
Fri Jul 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM
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Good morning Nick,Mary,John,Larry and Mark.
Are you going to rid of Marilyn, too?
It is a very good idea the Union needs new people.Current officers doing very good job now.
Who is going to be a President?Mary?and Nick as a V.P?
Are you going to rid of Marilyn, too?
It is a very good idea the Union needs new people.Current officers doing very good job now.
Who is going to be a President?Mary?and Nick as a V.P?
Sat Jul 5, 2008 at 1:56 AM
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RICO. That's what we heard.
A lot of this would have been avoided years ago if CTU had simply complied with the LMRA and filed its annual LM2. For most of the members who were paying attention, the last straw came at the June 2008 House of Delegates meeting, when John O'Brill made sure that a "No" vote on the budget became a "Yes" vote when the "vote" was announced by Marilyn Stewart.
After months of intense debate over the budget and questions about how the union went from having a $5 million reserve (plus a building that's worth tens of millions on the Gold Coast) to having to borrow (at least $3 million), the delegates and members were lied to again.
First, no real budget information. Two simple questions. How much did CTU pay the main lawyers each of the past four years?How much has CTU paid for stuff from Go Promotions after giving them no-bid contracts? Transparency was denied both the delegates and the members.
Then, another cheat on the vote count. Although our counts report that the cheating began in the House as early as June 2005, everyone knows they have been going on since August 31, 2007, when Marilyn (with the help of those attorneys whose dollars no one knows) simply refused to count the "No" votes on the Daley contract in the House.
To June 2008, when the delegates voted "No" on the budget by a serious margin of 194 to 168 and the chief counter (O'Brill) simply flipped the totals when he gave them to his boss and political sponsor.
A lot of this would have been avoided years ago if CTU had simply complied with the LMRA and filed its annual LM2. For most of the members who were paying attention, the last straw came at the June 2008 House of Delegates meeting, when John O'Brill made sure that a "No" vote on the budget became a "Yes" vote when the "vote" was announced by Marilyn Stewart.
After months of intense debate over the budget and questions about how the union went from having a $5 million reserve (plus a building that's worth tens of millions on the Gold Coast) to having to borrow (at least $3 million), the delegates and members were lied to again.
First, no real budget information. Two simple questions. How much did CTU pay the main lawyers each of the past four years?How much has CTU paid for stuff from Go Promotions after giving them no-bid contracts? Transparency was denied both the delegates and the members.
Then, another cheat on the vote count. Although our counts report that the cheating began in the House as early as June 2005, everyone knows they have been going on since August 31, 2007, when Marilyn (with the help of those attorneys whose dollars no one knows) simply refused to count the "No" votes on the Daley contract in the House.
To June 2008, when the delegates voted "No" on the budget by a serious margin of 194 to 168 and the chief counter (O'Brill) simply flipped the totals when he gave them to his boss and political sponsor.
Sat Jul 5, 2008 at 1:58 AM
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We're not just talking about some addled old duffer whose training in this stuff goes back to the early ward days under Richard J. Daley. Google the guy. He's currently President of the Trustees of the $11 billion Chicago Teachers Pension Fund. That person has to be someone who counts honestly and always has, not someone who answers slavishly to current clout.
Sat Jul 5, 2008 at 6:46 AM
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Nice.All current and retired teachers watch your pension.Marilyn and John will work hard to help redirect your money ..We have a lot of expenses and you dummies live so long.
Sat Jul 5, 2008 at 7:05 AM
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Check for press release on WWW.COALITIONSDU.ORG and educate yourself.Do not be in dark.
Sat Jul 5, 2008 at 8:17 AM
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Is the House of Delegates scheduled to meet this summer? If not, delegates should petition for a special meeting and remind Marilyn that it's them not the Executive Board that has control of this issue. I believe that according to Roberts Rules of Order, the President or Secretary can call a meeting but that 2/3rds of the members also have the right to call a meeting even if the officers don't. Am I wrong?
Sat Jul 5, 2008 at 10:42 AM
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I think you are right, Marricat. The House of Delegates is the suprmeme ruling body. This is clearly stated in the Constitution and By-Laws.
Sat Jul 5, 2008 at 6:05 PM
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I think each of us that believe things need to change should be contacting our delegates and asking them to call a special meeting to review the charges against Ted and to ask all of the officers to disclose their financial records.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 12:49 AM
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I think everyone should be writing to the politicians to get Article 34 out in the open and investigate where the BOE gets support in screwing the teachers because this particular section that allows them to fire us under NCLB either does not exist or has been drastically misinterpretted with no opposition from anyone. Supposedly 34.8 was struck so then does that not also strike all the points under 8? Who cares what is happening to us reconstituted and fired or excuse me honorably terminated teachers and staff members of the 19 schools that suddenly are forgotten because why? Marilyn is trying to fire Ted?! Come on people get a clue one school after another is going to leave us all fired so where does that leave the union anyways? Worry about your job and your fellow colleagues not Ted or Marilyn. We are allowing her to do what the BOE does ...create another issue so they forget about everything elde and then another and another and on and on....From all of us fired teachers thanks for standing up for us everyone!!!!
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 7:41 AM
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The CTU is not representing us making a few people rich on our cost.We have no power to lobby legislators on the one by one basis.
We need our Union back.Marilyn should go as well as her cohort.
We need leaders working for us and using the power of the organization to fight back the injustice.The Union is not for creating the Fresh Start.Union is to protect jobs .
We need our Union back.Marilyn should go as well as her cohort.
We need leaders working for us and using the power of the organization to fight back the injustice.The Union is not for creating the Fresh Start.Union is to protect jobs .
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 8:27 AM
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Can Madame Mumbles stutter on every sentence out of her mouth this morning on Fox?
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 9:23 AM
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Check out Mumbles on:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=6916909&version=1&locale=EN-US
Someone get her a speech coach. No wait, that costs $$$ and wouldn't that be a bad investment?
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=6916909&version=1&locale=EN-US
Someone get her a speech coach. No wait, that costs $$$ and wouldn't that be a bad investment?
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 9:58 AM
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I have not forgotten the fired, misplaced teachers. I was one of them two years before I retired. In fact, depression from losing his job and inability to find another one is part of what killed a friend of mine who had taught for over 30 years. I am fighting Marilyn because the Union should be standing up for all of us and is refusing to do so. Corraine, I will contact my politicians and I hope others do so to.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM
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Just saw the new "Ode to Marilyn" CTU site. Let's see. No new updates or information; Marilyn's letter...but they didn't even post her stellar Fox appearance; the site doesn't really work and most information will be posted "soon". Now there's transparency for you! I can't wait to see what else we will get for our dues! In UNITY!
Almost forgot...at least they still listed Dallas as VP. Until "the trial", will this AFT Convention be a reinactment of the summer of '68? What do YOU think George?
Almost forgot...at least they still listed Dallas as VP. Until "the trial", will this AFT Convention be a reinactment of the summer of '68? What do YOU think George?
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 7:46 PM
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Is it true that the attorney generals office has informally questioned a restaurant owner who has been hosting parties for both CTU and UPC food functions? Some members who have eaten at the functions over the years were talking about a current staff member who was the middle man making sure the food/drink bills were being paid when executive board members and staffers were fed on the CTUs expense. Does anyone know who the middle man is?
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 8:19 PM
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You must be talking about those meetings at the Parthenon that I've been told about. Rumor has it that the VP and his Jr. have connections
with the owner there.
with the owner there.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 8:57 PM
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to: not denny's
Nice try. Got a lawyer on retainer yet? Maybe Gail will let you borrow some of her receipts. The issue in the media is the half million spent on food and beverages the year leading to your boss' re-election. What your talking about is a mere pittance as the $6,000 in charges that Dallas is being accused of. Where's the beef? Any way you slice it, the office of special events is tied to CTU dollars.
Nice try. Got a lawyer on retainer yet? Maybe Gail will let you borrow some of her receipts. The issue in the media is the half million spent on food and beverages the year leading to your boss' re-election. What your talking about is a mere pittance as the $6,000 in charges that Dallas is being accused of. Where's the beef? Any way you slice it, the office of special events is tied to CTU dollars.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 9:21 PM
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If you think that the expenses of TD were only $6000 then you are really dillusional and in denial. The amount is at least 4 times that in a very short time span and will be proven very soon. The $500,000 is a bold faced lie because it includes CTU events such as the LEAD dinner which is reimbursed by ticket sales and the 10-12 meetings for members around the city prior to constructing the contract demands for the current contract. When you see the breakdown of the costs for all of this, you will see that it still does not even come close to that $500,000 lie. You and I both know the truth.
It's obvious you are a mouthpiece for TD, LP, and DS since you consistently avoid dealing with the illegal cashing in of 66 sick days without Exec. Com. approval or knowledge and constantly avoid the real heart of the charges dealing with emails and letters to staff, ULP charges filed by Union employees, etc.
Just wait until you see the spending of LP. You're going to have to come up with a tremendous set of stories for those.
I suggest you start dealing with the realities of the facts in front of you instead of following directives from the ones who committed the charges as laid out in black and white.
It's obvious you are a mouthpiece for TD, LP, and DS since you consistently avoid dealing with the illegal cashing in of 66 sick days without Exec. Com. approval or knowledge and constantly avoid the real heart of the charges dealing with emails and letters to staff, ULP charges filed by Union employees, etc.
Just wait until you see the spending of LP. You're going to have to come up with a tremendous set of stories for those.
I suggest you start dealing with the realities of the facts in front of you instead of following directives from the ones who committed the charges as laid out in black and white.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM
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yeah that 600 receipt was one of 2 or three that night after the house meeting. where are the other receipts?you all know to throw ted out got to show the other receipts. all those la luce and erie receipts. inquiring minds want to know.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 9:35 PM
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"I suggest you start dealing....."We are doing this already.The District Attorney will definitely make some clarification shortly..are you going to join Genova as soon as she is going to join her husband?Or do you prefer to play ping pong with others?
Are you aware that your cohort is hurting 32 000 members not providing them representation they pay for?
Are you aware that members know already about the pension fund undisclosed deals?
Are you aware that your cohort is hurting 32 000 members not providing them representation they pay for?
Are you aware that members know already about the pension fund undisclosed deals?
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 9:36 PM
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who approved the spending on these court cases? the poltrock gravy train! Choo Choo! 5 lawyers in court instead of protecting members from termination or school closings. shame on you. you just want to keep stealing money from members and are mad dallas spoiled the fun. i want my go promotion china gifts and subway non-union sandwich! how much for go promotions and subway last year/ speak up we can not hear you? is that dallas fault too.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM
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I strongly believe that ExBoard members involved in illegal action should be aware about their potential liabilities(personal liabilities)for knowingly and willfully conspiring against the Union ,violating their duties and action against Ted (deflamation)as described in court documents...
Again,think before you act(retaining a good attorney is one of the options...make sure that such attorney is registered with the fed(Northern District).
Again,think before you act(retaining a good attorney is one of the options...make sure that such attorney is registered with the fed(Northern District).
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM
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All this back and forth, claim and counter-claim, he-said and she-said, is a giant load of moose flop and exactly the reason (among many) why expenditure records for ALL the officers should be made available to both the Executive Board and the House of Delegates.
A little daylight is a good thing. And informing people is NOT a bad thing. But this bickering is absurd. Release the financials for all the officers and start behaving like responsible adults instead of pissant, clique-identified, insecure teenagers. We see enough of that at school, thank you very much.
A little daylight is a good thing. And informing people is NOT a bad thing. But this bickering is absurd. Release the financials for all the officers and start behaving like responsible adults instead of pissant, clique-identified, insecure teenagers. We see enough of that at school, thank you very much.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 10:23 PM
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Blah Blah Blah, do you pretend to be Batman too?
Get a Life... you spend way too much time on this blog.
Get a Life... you spend way too much time on this blog.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 11:32 PM
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BlahBlah Blah I am enjoying the life.How about you?
Busy to conspire ?
Are we going to see you at the fed club together with your Queen?
By the way do you know something about the former Calumet City Mayor?
Any connection?With Go Promotion possible?
Busy to conspire ?
Are we going to see you at the fed club together with your Queen?
By the way do you know something about the former Calumet City Mayor?
Any connection?With Go Promotion possible?
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 11:34 PM
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To the union:
Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, Good-bye
Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, Good-bye
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM
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I agree with you.It is so simple.
They will never do that ..at this time.They know exactly what and why they are quiet.
In the nearest future we will see such documents as a public record.
They will never do that ..at this time.They know exactly what and why they are quiet.
In the nearest future we will see such documents as a public record.
Sun Jul 6, 2008 at 11:39 PM
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Good-bye ..is it a grab and run game?Run with members money and retire comfortable?
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 6:50 AM
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Few of us disagree that Ted probably committed some of the offenses that he is charged with but what we disagree with is the way that it is being done. If Ted's records are going to be open to the public and the courts so should Marilyn's and all other officers. As long as some records are sealed and others aren't there's going to be questions and this back and forth arguing. You could end it by simply being transparent and opening the books. Show us that we're wrong! I would welcome it.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 AM
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Hello.I really like your intelligent comments.I would like talk to you.
Our website : www.coalitionsdu.org and my personal e mail coollaw3@yahoo.com.
Have a nice day.
Our website : www.coalitionsdu.org and my personal e mail coollaw3@yahoo.com.
Have a nice day.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 6:42 PM
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To: Only the beginning
If history is documented correctly, the charges against Dallas only came after Dallas decided to openly stand up to what he believed was Stewarts betrayal of him? True or False? Get your facts straight. If you say false, you are a liar! Of course, Stewarts advisors did not think this would land someone in prison.
If history is documented correctly, the charges against Dallas only came after Dallas decided to openly stand up to what he believed was Stewarts betrayal of him? True or False? Get your facts straight. If you say false, you are a liar! Of course, Stewarts advisors did not think this would land someone in prison.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM
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To: You Are Now In Sing Sing
You are right in your history but it wasn't just Marilyn's betrayal of Ted. The charges came after Ted openly advocated to the members of schools who were being closed. Schools Marilyn's people refused to visit and members Marilyn refused to advocate for (as is her job). Ted was censored for doing his job. As I said before, I am sure he is not totally innocent but the Union has looked the other way to people padding their expenses and they would have continued to do so if Ted had continued to be a "yes man."
You are right in your history but it wasn't just Marilyn's betrayal of Ted. The charges came after Ted openly advocated to the members of schools who were being closed. Schools Marilyn's people refused to visit and members Marilyn refused to advocate for (as is her job). Ted was censored for doing his job. As I said before, I am sure he is not totally innocent but the Union has looked the other way to people padding their expenses and they would have continued to do so if Ted had continued to be a "yes man."
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 7:28 PM
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You've got that backwards. You are forgetting that Marilyn is the President, so Ted was the one trying to stage the power play.
The charges were only brought after the audits that were done of the CTU finances. The results of the audit in addition to the other offenses that he committed and his individual deals with certain people were what lead the charges to be brought. I don't think that anyone is going to jail except possibly Ted and Linda.
The charges were only brought after the audits that were done of the CTU finances. The results of the audit in addition to the other offenses that he committed and his individual deals with certain people were what lead the charges to be brought. I don't think that anyone is going to jail except possibly Ted and Linda.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 7:34 PM
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As you see my name is posted above.Have you seen numbers as a result of Marilyn overspending?
I am deeply sorry but medical assistance is necessary.
Do you know how many legitimate lawsuits is pending against her?
If you are Unionist and you are a honest person definitely must educate yourself.All paperworks are posted on the www.coalitionsdu.org. InSolidarity.
I am deeply sorry but medical assistance is necessary.
Do you know how many legitimate lawsuits is pending against her?
If you are Unionist and you are a honest person definitely must educate yourself.All paperworks are posted on the www.coalitionsdu.org. InSolidarity.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM
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Anyone can file a lawsuit as long as they have the money to file it. Who says they are legitimate, you? You are not the Judge or jury. the courts will decide if there is any merit to any of the lawsuits that have been filed. Accusations have to be proven, not just created.
Someone has you so brainwashed, that even when these lawsuits are dismissed, you will still not believe or admit that these allegations are
false. Maybe you are the one in need of medical attention.
In the charges against Ted, everything is documented: he wrote the emails, he charged the meals and falsified who he was treating to dinner, he wrote the letters, he signed a check to himself for sick day cashout, he signed a check to DS for a $65,000 for a private deal that he made with her. All there, all documented and yet you still won't admit that he did all of these things. Wake up.
Someone has you so brainwashed, that even when these lawsuits are dismissed, you will still not believe or admit that these allegations are
false. Maybe you are the one in need of medical attention.
In the charges against Ted, everything is documented: he wrote the emails, he charged the meals and falsified who he was treating to dinner, he wrote the letters, he signed a check to himself for sick day cashout, he signed a check to DS for a $65,000 for a private deal that he made with her. All there, all documented and yet you still won't admit that he did all of these things. Wake up.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 8:20 PM
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he would already have been in jail if the previous post was true.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 8:24 PM
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1a) Are any of the alleged actions of Mr. Dallas outside of the normal operating procedure for CTU officers?
1b) Are any of them within the normal operating procedure for CTU officers?
2) Why has there been such a significant delay in taking action to remove him?
3) Does the CTU Constitution and By-Laws specifically allow for the removal of an elected officer?
4) Does the Executive Board have access to the financial records for any of the other officers?
5) Is or is not the House of Delegates, according to the Constitution and By-Laws, the ultimate authority within the Union?
6) Should the House of Delegates have access to more information about this unfortunate situation?
1b) Are any of them within the normal operating procedure for CTU officers?
2) Why has there been such a significant delay in taking action to remove him?
3) Does the CTU Constitution and By-Laws specifically allow for the removal of an elected officer?
4) Does the Executive Board have access to the financial records for any of the other officers?
5) Is or is not the House of Delegates, according to the Constitution and By-Laws, the ultimate authority within the Union?
6) Should the House of Delegates have access to more information about this unfortunate situation?
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 8:54 PM
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He could not already have been in jail if charges had not been made.
What do you think, he would offer up all of this himself and say lead me to jail. Charges have to be made and then he gets his due process.
That is exactly where we are at right now.
What do you think, he would offer up all of this himself and say lead me to jail. Charges have to be made and then he gets his due process.
That is exactly where we are at right now.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 9:11 PM
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woow now iam really confused so after the due process this guy he goes to jail? wow i want to join that union they can put people in jail.
damn your good in chi-town.
damn your good in chi-town.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 9:25 PM
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By:To 8:19
I wish someone from the Executive Board would answer your questions point by point but they don't dare because they know that they are hiding information from the membership.
I want to remind people that even the Judge questioned why the financial records of other officers was not available for review and so Ted's records could be compared to them. This would determine whether he really operated much differently from other officers or if there is a political reasons for the charges.
Until Marilyn and the other officers release their information, no one can state that she and other officers are innocent. At the various least, they are guilty of changing the Union from an open body to a dictatorship and trying to hide information from the membership.
Instead of defending her, why don't you encourage her and her cohorts to release the information so the debate can end.
I wish someone from the Executive Board would answer your questions point by point but they don't dare because they know that they are hiding information from the membership.
I want to remind people that even the Judge questioned why the financial records of other officers was not available for review and so Ted's records could be compared to them. This would determine whether he really operated much differently from other officers or if there is a political reasons for the charges.
Until Marilyn and the other officers release their information, no one can state that she and other officers are innocent. At the various least, they are guilty of changing the Union from an open body to a dictatorship and trying to hide information from the membership.
Instead of defending her, why don't you encourage her and her cohorts to release the information so the debate can end.
Mon Jul 7, 2008 at 10:21 PM
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Take it easy..First I post under my own name how about you?
Second ,you wrote "Anyone can file a lawsuit as long as they have
the money".It is true and not true ...frivolous lawsuit could result in very surprising court order regarding the legal costs and criminal prosecution..If you do not have money you always could petition the court and ask for the waiver .
I strongly believe that the Union could avoid the litigation by:better case preparation,attempt to mediate and finally by reading the CTU Constitution and by laws.
At this time there is no provision regarding recall/impeach the elected officer.(go to the www.coalitionsdu.org and find Constitution and By laws).
All ExBoard members could be subpoenaed and possibly could be prosecuted for conspiracy.
So,all members of the Union always have a right to drop any crazy lawsuit and concentrate on issues relevant to the current situation regarding schools closure and tenured teachers dissmisal.
So please do not make a low profile comments.Marilyn is a President of the Union and she is responsible for the current financial crisis adding the legal costs to idiotic lawsuits knowing that eventually she will pay for it using Union(teachers and PSRP's) dues.
Please analize the George S case.
Stupidity or planned approach?
I was a single person presenting motions to dismissal the closure proposal.I am not an attorney practicing in IL and I never requested the reimbursement of the associated costs.
At the same time the Union leadership pretended that everything is O.K..Now,the are able to send five attorneys to defend the cangaroo claims.Shame.
Second ,you wrote "Anyone can file a lawsuit as long as they have
the money".It is true and not true ...frivolous lawsuit could result in very surprising court order regarding the legal costs and criminal prosecution..If you do not have money you always could petition the court and ask for the waiver .
I strongly believe that the Union could avoid the litigation by:better case preparation,attempt to mediate and finally by reading the CTU Constitution and by laws.
At this time there is no provision regarding recall/impeach the elected officer.(go to the www.coalitionsdu.org and find Constitution and By laws).
All ExBoard members could be subpoenaed and possibly could be prosecuted for conspiracy.
So,all members of the Union always have a right to drop any crazy lawsuit and concentrate on issues relevant to the current situation regarding schools closure and tenured teachers dissmisal.
So please do not make a low profile comments.Marilyn is a President of the Union and she is responsible for the current financial crisis adding the legal costs to idiotic lawsuits knowing that eventually she will pay for it using Union(teachers and PSRP's) dues.
Please analize the George S case.
Stupidity or planned approach?
I was a single person presenting motions to dismissal the closure proposal.I am not an attorney practicing in IL and I never requested the reimbursement of the associated costs.
At the same time the Union leadership pretended that everything is O.K..Now,the are able to send five attorneys to defend the cangaroo claims.Shame.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 6:57 AM
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Is it true that ExBd members will be subpoenaed and Genova as well?
Is it true that Stewart is going to retire after the AFT convention?
Is it true that Pat Fitzgerald is investigating Marilyn actions(RICO)?
Is it true that Mary and Nick are in conflict with Marilyn lately?
Is it true that Stewart is going to retire after the AFT convention?
Is it true that Pat Fitzgerald is investigating Marilyn actions(RICO)?
Is it true that Mary and Nick are in conflict with Marilyn lately?
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 8:45 AM
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It is for educational purposes.Showing her pic to kids with behavioral problems causes fear and makes them quiet.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 10:39 AM
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Cris, did you forget that it was Ted and Linda who filed the lawsuit against Marilyn? They are responsible for their own legal fees. To: brainwashed: here are your answers: no, no, no, no. The Judge is going to be notified that you are trying to imtimidate the Exec Bd members with your threats of subpoenas and such.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 11:24 AM
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OK.It is true.They are responsible for their own legal fees.
But they are still an Union members and Union attorneys should not be used against them because of the conflict of interests.(professional responsibility rules).
After all why you continue frivolous lawsuit knowing that the Constitution and by laws do not provide any way to remove /impeach elected officers?
It could be better for all of us if you back off and let members decide during the next election.
Again they are responsible for they legal costs until the lawsuit is not considered frivolous.
Also nobody try to intimidate.Subpoena is a part of legal procedures and innocent people have no reason to perceive it that way.
Thank you for your answer to "brainwashed".No No No it is what you said instead saying I do not know.
Are you capable at this time to answer such question fully and honestly?
I voted for Marilyn and made my teachers doing the same.They trusted me.
How do I feel at this time?Elected Union officers try to destroy another Union officer on the phony charges-it is not what people expect from elected leaders.If you demand respect for the Union President respect other Union officers as well.
But they are still an Union members and Union attorneys should not be used against them because of the conflict of interests.(professional responsibility rules).
After all why you continue frivolous lawsuit knowing that the Constitution and by laws do not provide any way to remove /impeach elected officers?
It could be better for all of us if you back off and let members decide during the next election.
Again they are responsible for they legal costs until the lawsuit is not considered frivolous.
Also nobody try to intimidate.Subpoena is a part of legal procedures and innocent people have no reason to perceive it that way.
Thank you for your answer to "brainwashed".No No No it is what you said instead saying I do not know.
Are you capable at this time to answer such question fully and honestly?
I voted for Marilyn and made my teachers doing the same.They trusted me.
How do I feel at this time?Elected Union officers try to destroy another Union officer on the phony charges-it is not what people expect from elected leaders.If you demand respect for the Union President respect other Union officers as well.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 11:39 AM
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Chris, Your remarks were right to the point. No one knows what is going to happen at this time. Innocent people do not fear supeanas or appearing before the court. They do not fear opening up their records for review. They do not claim privacy and then release another officer's records to non-officers. Doing so, opens the door to challenges as to why every officer's records are not open to teachers and other union members. Unless the bylaws have been changed from when I was a delegate, the bylaws do not allow for the actions that are being taken against Ted and I agree that Union attorneys should not be used to go against any Union member. I remember as delegate, I had to tell people they could not file a grievance against another Union member (another teacher or staff member that was part of the Union). They could only file grievances against the principal or vice principal. If a Union member within a school cannot file a grievance against another Union member, how can an officer of our Union do so. To me bringing charges is even more severe than a grievance but would fall under the same rational. I also question how serious Marilyn is about trying to reform things when she has strike breakers working for her. In all my years of teaching, someone could not be a member of the Union if they crossed the picket line unless they paid back all of the money. How can you work for the Union if you can't be a member? I have never seen anything in the by-laws or constitution allowing the president or any other officer to waive this provision. Am I missing something?
I don't think anyone is threatening Executive Board members but instead are asking them to think carefully about what they are doing. This will open the door to actions against other Union members.
I don't think anyone is threatening Executive Board members but instead are asking them to think carefully about what they are doing. This will open the door to actions against other Union members.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 12:30 PM
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As usual, the lies keep coming. I would love to see your records. Replete with perks from years gone by do to private arrangements. Again, you keep lying about strike breakers. Yuo have no evidence of the whatsoever in the union records except for some guy who claims the info. more than 20 years ago. Real prompt I say. No motivation of course. Get real.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 1:38 PM
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As a previous Union delegate, I know time has no relevance towards how long someone is prohibited from taking part in Union activities. There were two or three people at my school who wanted to vote but couldn't because they were not allowed to be Union members. I have not heard the person deny that she was a strike breaker so I tend to believe that it's true. If we are going to say time has a bearing then lets grandfather in all of those people who were blocked from re-joining and voting. It would be easy to prove one way or the other by showing whether or not she was paid during a strike. Since Ted's records were released, the precedent is to release information to prove a point. Again, you opened the can of worms not us.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 1:41 PM
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As far as I know, the only lawsuit against TD is the one over the Caucus money. (this is separate from his charges from CTU)CTU has not filed any lawsuit against him. He has been charged with certain offenses under the rules of our Constitution.
There is no lawsuit against him. Chris refers to "phony charges", all of them are documented with his own handwriting and email info, etc.
Chris, which are the phony charges? Maybe you can get TD to back off
the suit that HE has filed, and wait until the next election. CTU has not filed any suit that they would need to back off on.
There is no lawsuit against him. Chris refers to "phony charges", all of them are documented with his own handwriting and email info, etc.
Chris, which are the phony charges? Maybe you can get TD to back off
the suit that HE has filed, and wait until the next election. CTU has not filed any suit that they would need to back off on.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 2:20 PM
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I don't think you geniuses realize how stupid you all sound. Airing all of this dirty laundry on this management supported blog is setting the teachers union movement back 50 years. The once powerful CTU is in shambles. You can't hold a fair election correctly. You can't have a civil debate in your own House of Delegates. Your contract stinks. You have no job security provisions. You have no seniority or bumping rights. You are all just one mayoral temper tantrum away from losing your jobs. You are suing each other. Your duly elected officers are feuding. You are in debt. Your pay scale is worse than most IEA units. So what do you do? Work together in solidarity to preserve what few rights you have left? Nooooooooooo! Sue each other. Call each other names and threaten each other and your duly elected executive board on this blog.
You are all acting like the children you alledgely teach. You are all an embarrassment to the profession and to organized labor. Get off the blog! Get together with your officers and mediate this stupid dispute. Fight management, not each other. ..and since you are teachers try using spell and grammar check so you sound semi-literate.
Bob Healy, Jacqui Vaughn, and even ol' Tom Reece are rolling in their graves.
Solidarity forever.
You are all acting like the children you alledgely teach. You are all an embarrassment to the profession and to organized labor. Get off the blog! Get together with your officers and mediate this stupid dispute. Fight management, not each other. ..and since you are teachers try using spell and grammar check so you sound semi-literate.
Bob Healy, Jacqui Vaughn, and even ol' Tom Reece are rolling in their graves.
Solidarity forever.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM
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You are right and you are demonstrating great amount of anger.
I strongly believe that you are a person able to suggest solution to existing issues .I will appreciate if you bother to visit www.coalitionsdu.org ,read all documents and possibly share your wisdom with us.
We try to save our Union.We lost our jobs and the process of liquidating the public school system is in progress.
Do you think is it a planned effort or just lack of leadership skill?
Or maybe sellout can translate into particular monetary benefit?
I strongly believe that you are a person able to suggest solution to existing issues .I will appreciate if you bother to visit www.coalitionsdu.org ,read all documents and possibly share your wisdom with us.
We try to save our Union.We lost our jobs and the process of liquidating the public school system is in progress.
Do you think is it a planned effort or just lack of leadership skill?
Or maybe sellout can translate into particular monetary benefit?
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 5:42 PM
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Bill, I hope you will join one of the coalitions to change the Union too. If you have real solutions to offer, it would be wonderful. I fortunately am retired and the problems with CPS is one of the reasons that I took early retirement. I'm very grateful that I am not a young teacher having to deal with everything that is going on right now. I worked and fought hard to make the Union powerful and I am frustrated and angered by what this Administration is doing to it. Someone seems to be profiting from what is going on and it's not the teachers or staff.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 5:43 PM
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Read posts above.Bill is right but there is no solution offered.
I believe that you should leave Ted alone and let him perform his duties according to the Constitution.Same with Linda.
Soon you will discover that all checks without Treasurer's signatures are null and void -see the Constitution and read again.
Explain to the membership all issues related to the fiscal mismanagement showing all documents relevant -not only Ted's receipts.Show fairness and work for the Union not against.
Read what Bill wrote above" setting the teachers union movement
back 50 years".
Wake up and mediate providing services you are obligated to provide.
I believe that you should leave Ted alone and let him perform his duties according to the Constitution.Same with Linda.
Soon you will discover that all checks without Treasurer's signatures are null and void -see the Constitution and read again.
Explain to the membership all issues related to the fiscal mismanagement showing all documents relevant -not only Ted's receipts.Show fairness and work for the Union not against.
Read what Bill wrote above" setting the teachers union movement
back 50 years".
Wake up and mediate providing services you are obligated to provide.
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 7:13 PM
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Memories
Dear Bill when did we ever have a contract? I have been around almost 40 years and I have never scene one. I remember every person you named, know what, all of them were
part of the problem .Even the sainted Jackie Vaughn gave up without a fight during
her last term.
Were we ever powerful? only in our own minds. I challenge anyone to cite me one
example where we won a court case based on our contract only. Also remember how connected the CTU was in 1977 when hundreds of our members were racially transferred. Wasn’t that Healey? how about no pay for 6 weeks in 79-80.
Two strikes in three years during the Vaughn years. Who can ever forget the fight
Reese put up when he destroyed Vallas in 1995.Ya we are sure powerful
Dear Bill when did we ever have a contract? I have been around almost 40 years and I have never scene one. I remember every person you named, know what, all of them were
part of the problem .Even the sainted Jackie Vaughn gave up without a fight during
her last term.
Were we ever powerful? only in our own minds. I challenge anyone to cite me one
example where we won a court case based on our contract only. Also remember how connected the CTU was in 1977 when hundreds of our members were racially transferred. Wasn’t that Healey? how about no pay for 6 weeks in 79-80.
Two strikes in three years during the Vaughn years. Who can ever forget the fight
Reese put up when he destroyed Vallas in 1995.Ya we are sure powerful
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 10:14 PM
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Scene one? What does that mean? Try working without a union. And, didn't Vaughn die of cancer during her last term? Is that what you're talking about?
Tue Jul 8, 2008 at 10:30 PM
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You know ,like act one, scene three FICTION. Yes she did die of cancer a fact the
UPC kept from almost everyone until she was re-elected setting the stage for Grease or Reece to take over. I have been working without a union for the whole time. Our contract
Is not worth the paper it’s written on. How about answering my other question about
Court cases?
UPC kept from almost everyone until she was re-elected setting the stage for Grease or Reece to take over. I have been working without a union for the whole time. Our contract
Is not worth the paper it’s written on. How about answering my other question about
Court cases?
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 2:25 AM
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During the 1980s and 1990s, at least at the beginning, we had a contract and it was enforceable. It was not perfect, but I could give a dozen examples of how strong we were, despite the problems we faced.
In 1980, 1981, and 1982 the Board laid off thousands of teachers, from tenured teachers to FTBs and other subs. Every FTB was placed on a seniority rehire list and we were all rehired in order of seniority. I know because I went through those years and my seniority rights were enforced and protected by our union contract, despite the fact that until 1984, I was "just a sub" -- an FTB.
Likewise during the 1980s, we had a contract by means of which we could enforce class size maximums.
By the late 1980s, CPS had "abolished tracking" by establishing the "N" (meaning "Non Level") in English and Math classes at the high school level. Since our contracts back then specified that students in the "lower" track classes (in those days, called "Basic" and "Essential" in English and math) were maximum of 25, while "Regular" and "Honors" classes had a maximum of 28, the Board, naturally, ruled that all "N" classes would be staffed at 28.
I grieved that, arguing that if one student in the class was below the 4th Stanine (the 40th percentile) the entire class should be tracked at the lower class size (25) instead of 28, no matter what the Board called the class.
We won. CPS argued that "low average" was really the bottom of the third stanine (roughly the 30th percentile), so any "N" class that had students below the 30th percentile was subject to the lower class size.
The CTU and me. The contract Article was Article 28, and every year after that win, we could scan the ITBS or TAP reading and math scores for the students in a class and enforce the maximum of 25 if the class had one student who was "below" the cut score.
Most of the victories in contract enforcement we won during those years required hard work and some stamina. But whether it was enforcing seniority (on everything from rehiring to summer school staffing to programming rotation) or class size, we could enforce our contracts with grievances. And we did.
Those rights were taken away with the passage of the Amendatory Act in 1995 and the subsequent decision by Tom Reece to try and work with the mayor (and therefore not lobby to rescind the Act). We still haven't gotten those rights restored, and the current debacles are the result.
But please don't claim that we did not have enforceable rights "back in the day." We did, for those of us who were willing to enforce them. And we had a union staff that acted professionally, not matter which side of the union's political divisions you were on.
I led some of those opposition groups (ran for President in 1988 against Jacqueline Vaughn and got 40 percent of the vote; ran against Reece -- who campaigned as the "black" candidate -- in 1994). And under Jacqueline Vaughn the union's grievance staff gave me and my school (Amundsen High School in those days) some of the best field rep services in history.
The corruption we're narrating about today wasn't always a central feature of the CTU. And it's possible to describe -- warts and all -- how something as imperfect as a union contract can be enforced to the benefit of everyone (including, in the case of lower class sizes, the students) if the union is both strong and ethnical.
In 1980, 1981, and 1982 the Board laid off thousands of teachers, from tenured teachers to FTBs and other subs. Every FTB was placed on a seniority rehire list and we were all rehired in order of seniority. I know because I went through those years and my seniority rights were enforced and protected by our union contract, despite the fact that until 1984, I was "just a sub" -- an FTB.
Likewise during the 1980s, we had a contract by means of which we could enforce class size maximums.
By the late 1980s, CPS had "abolished tracking" by establishing the "N" (meaning "Non Level") in English and Math classes at the high school level. Since our contracts back then specified that students in the "lower" track classes (in those days, called "Basic" and "Essential" in English and math) were maximum of 25, while "Regular" and "Honors" classes had a maximum of 28, the Board, naturally, ruled that all "N" classes would be staffed at 28.
I grieved that, arguing that if one student in the class was below the 4th Stanine (the 40th percentile) the entire class should be tracked at the lower class size (25) instead of 28, no matter what the Board called the class.
We won. CPS argued that "low average" was really the bottom of the third stanine (roughly the 30th percentile), so any "N" class that had students below the 30th percentile was subject to the lower class size.
The CTU and me. The contract Article was Article 28, and every year after that win, we could scan the ITBS or TAP reading and math scores for the students in a class and enforce the maximum of 25 if the class had one student who was "below" the cut score.
Most of the victories in contract enforcement we won during those years required hard work and some stamina. But whether it was enforcing seniority (on everything from rehiring to summer school staffing to programming rotation) or class size, we could enforce our contracts with grievances. And we did.
Those rights were taken away with the passage of the Amendatory Act in 1995 and the subsequent decision by Tom Reece to try and work with the mayor (and therefore not lobby to rescind the Act). We still haven't gotten those rights restored, and the current debacles are the result.
But please don't claim that we did not have enforceable rights "back in the day." We did, for those of us who were willing to enforce them. And we had a union staff that acted professionally, not matter which side of the union's political divisions you were on.
I led some of those opposition groups (ran for President in 1988 against Jacqueline Vaughn and got 40 percent of the vote; ran against Reece -- who campaigned as the "black" candidate -- in 1994). And under Jacqueline Vaughn the union's grievance staff gave me and my school (Amundsen High School in those days) some of the best field rep services in history.
The corruption we're narrating about today wasn't always a central feature of the CTU. And it's possible to describe -- warts and all -- how something as imperfect as a union contract can be enforced to the benefit of everyone (including, in the case of lower class sizes, the students) if the union is both strong and ethnical.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 2:31 AM
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Not only was the CTU "ethnical" (the fact that Tom Reece was "black" for a couple of elections is an example of this; and it's been included in a major scholarly work from Columbia University Press! because the silly lie was so widespread) back in those days.
But even in the most heated political battles, most of the staff tried to be ethical as well. Not all. But imperfection has always been reality, except when corporate school reform and the Daley Miracle became the dominant narrative here in Chicago beginning nearly 20 years ago (with the publication of that piece of ruling class Tribune propaganda "Chicago's Schools: America's Worst" and the subsequent advent of mayoral control).
But even in the most heated political battles, most of the staff tried to be ethical as well. Not all. But imperfection has always been reality, except when corporate school reform and the Daley Miracle became the dominant narrative here in Chicago beginning nearly 20 years ago (with the publication of that piece of ruling class Tribune propaganda "Chicago's Schools: America's Worst" and the subsequent advent of mayoral control).
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 6:48 AM
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Yes, our Union was once much more powerful and the contract could be enforced in many ways. I'd like to add a couple of examples to those listed by George.
Each of the strikes were to keep our contract from being weakened and to add new provisions. When we were willing to truly fight for our rights, we had smaller class sizes, better insurance, and true senority. Back in those days, a teacher had true city-wide senority. When my class was closed at one school, I was able to bump a teacher with less senority at another school. This happened twice, once when my SPED class was closed and once when a school I taught at was closed. Once a teacher had taught for three years, it was difficult to fire them. A principal had to go through the Union contract provisions and teachers had several recourses both through the Union and through the state due process procedure.
When I taught self-contained Special Education (cross-cate), one year my entire class was signed up for ESY. The contract stated that if the majority of a teacher's students were signed up, the teacher had the right to the class (I think it was six students at that time). The principal at Talcott where my students were assigned wanted her own teacher and told me that I wasn't needed. I spoke to my delegate who called the principal and told her that under the contract she had to hire me. I was called the next day and offered a job. When I told the principal that I couldn't come in until two days later because I had to arrange transportation with special services (a service for people with disabilities where you have to call at 6 a.m. the morning before), she told the Union delegate that she couldn't hire me because I had a disability and her program required that I be able to go up and down the stairs. The Union delegate was prepared to file a grievance (since the students' IEPs did not require this kind of program) but it wouldn't have been resolved until later in the summer. I went to the EEOC and charged discrimination against CPS and the principal. I won and the day before summer school began, they had to move me and my entire class. Talcott's principal still tried to steal my students by sending a bus to their homes for the first two weeks of summer school but failed thanks to the Union and EEOC. The following year, I was able to use the Union and the EEOC to force the principal to give me a first floor classroom due to my physical disability. During the next couple of years, the contract as well as federal and state laws, enabled me to fight the administration and CPS several times successfully. Each time, my field rep. stood behind me. Unfortunately, today, field reps and Union delegates are much more afraid to fight and appear to be discouraged to fighting for the membership.
I think the Union was wrong for hiding Jackie's health problem from us until after the election and I think that's when our contracts and Union began to weaken. I believe strongly that given her strength, she would not have made the same decision today.
I have been active in the Union since I started teaching in 1972. I served four terms as a delegate and attended Union meetings both as a delegate and as a visitor. Under every other administration, members were much more respected and the House of Delegates was respected as the ruling body. Questions from the membership was encouraged and for the most part people could offer disagreement and still be respected. I can remember some very heated debates at the meetings and the questions and answers periods were not used to praise the administration. Under Marilyn, under disagreement is reacted to with fear and she quickly shuts people up. The yelling matches that have occurred at some meetings has discouraged many people from attending.
I'm not saying everything was ever perfect and I remember those six weeks when we weren't paid. I also know that it was only when a strike was voted on that we were paid the next day.
Without a Union, we would be in a lot worse shape and without a contract, all teachers would be at will employees of the board. I know from my law courses this means any teacher could be fired without cause.
Teachers need to unite and go back to those days when we were willing to fight to gain new rights and fight to protect those we have.
Solidarity Forever.
Each of the strikes were to keep our contract from being weakened and to add new provisions. When we were willing to truly fight for our rights, we had smaller class sizes, better insurance, and true senority. Back in those days, a teacher had true city-wide senority. When my class was closed at one school, I was able to bump a teacher with less senority at another school. This happened twice, once when my SPED class was closed and once when a school I taught at was closed. Once a teacher had taught for three years, it was difficult to fire them. A principal had to go through the Union contract provisions and teachers had several recourses both through the Union and through the state due process procedure.
When I taught self-contained Special Education (cross-cate), one year my entire class was signed up for ESY. The contract stated that if the majority of a teacher's students were signed up, the teacher had the right to the class (I think it was six students at that time). The principal at Talcott where my students were assigned wanted her own teacher and told me that I wasn't needed. I spoke to my delegate who called the principal and told her that under the contract she had to hire me. I was called the next day and offered a job. When I told the principal that I couldn't come in until two days later because I had to arrange transportation with special services (a service for people with disabilities where you have to call at 6 a.m. the morning before), she told the Union delegate that she couldn't hire me because I had a disability and her program required that I be able to go up and down the stairs. The Union delegate was prepared to file a grievance (since the students' IEPs did not require this kind of program) but it wouldn't have been resolved until later in the summer. I went to the EEOC and charged discrimination against CPS and the principal. I won and the day before summer school began, they had to move me and my entire class. Talcott's principal still tried to steal my students by sending a bus to their homes for the first two weeks of summer school but failed thanks to the Union and EEOC. The following year, I was able to use the Union and the EEOC to force the principal to give me a first floor classroom due to my physical disability. During the next couple of years, the contract as well as federal and state laws, enabled me to fight the administration and CPS several times successfully. Each time, my field rep. stood behind me. Unfortunately, today, field reps and Union delegates are much more afraid to fight and appear to be discouraged to fighting for the membership.
I think the Union was wrong for hiding Jackie's health problem from us until after the election and I think that's when our contracts and Union began to weaken. I believe strongly that given her strength, she would not have made the same decision today.
I have been active in the Union since I started teaching in 1972. I served four terms as a delegate and attended Union meetings both as a delegate and as a visitor. Under every other administration, members were much more respected and the House of Delegates was respected as the ruling body. Questions from the membership was encouraged and for the most part people could offer disagreement and still be respected. I can remember some very heated debates at the meetings and the questions and answers periods were not used to praise the administration. Under Marilyn, under disagreement is reacted to with fear and she quickly shuts people up. The yelling matches that have occurred at some meetings has discouraged many people from attending.
I'm not saying everything was ever perfect and I remember those six weeks when we weren't paid. I also know that it was only when a strike was voted on that we were paid the next day.
Without a Union, we would be in a lot worse shape and without a contract, all teachers would be at will employees of the board. I know from my law courses this means any teacher could be fired without cause.
Teachers need to unite and go back to those days when we were willing to fight to gain new rights and fight to protect those we have.
Solidarity Forever.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 7:19 AM
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Good morning.I strongly believe that eventually we are going to stay together because we have no choice.
We need to have an Union,we need to have a contract and we need to have a honest leadership.
Do not mess with the Constitution and do not try to create precedents by creating kangaroo tribunals in order to satisfy your personal wants.
Wait until next election to realize what membership really want to do with the current circus.
Concentrate on your role.Your role is to protect jobs not to be involved in sellouts in order to make yourselves rich on expenses of others.
Stay together and effectively work together.
Solidarity forever.
We need to have an Union,we need to have a contract and we need to have a honest leadership.
Do not mess with the Constitution and do not try to create precedents by creating kangaroo tribunals in order to satisfy your personal wants.
Wait until next election to realize what membership really want to do with the current circus.
Concentrate on your role.Your role is to protect jobs not to be involved in sellouts in order to make yourselves rich on expenses of others.
Stay together and effectively work together.
Solidarity forever.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 7:36 AM
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I am sick of your comments.You blame me for other people action.
I am not going to vote for anything.I would like to have a nice ,good vacation.
At my school people attempted to hurt me for all ExBd activity.
Some ExBd Members are scared because we were told what to do.
I do not need $100 stipend and subway lunch.
I am OUT.I do not like to spend my time in the court and possibly in the jail.
I AM OUT.
I am not going to vote for anything.I would like to have a nice ,good vacation.
At my school people attempted to hurt me for all ExBd activity.
Some ExBd Members are scared because we were told what to do.
I do not need $100 stipend and subway lunch.
I am OUT.I do not like to spend my time in the court and possibly in the jail.
I AM OUT.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 8:31 AM
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The airing of dirty laundry is part of the cleansing process. You are correct that the CTU is in shambles. This is due in part to the way the so-called Daley miracle has eviscerated our contract, instituted the corporate model and brought union members to the brink of extinction. As of right now, CPS operates as it chooses, beholden to no one, least of all the CTU, the parents and students. If a new program comes down the pike, it is greeted with open arms regardless as to its efficacy.
If you read Rufus and Arne's recent attack on teachers in the Chicago Tribune under the banner headline "What Will We Tell the Children?" you will have seen that CPS cannot balance its budget because it has to pay pensions to reitred teachers. It does not matter that the reason the Board pays such a large portion of the pension is because they gave away that perk in lieu of a substantial raise. Because their economic forecasters could not have possibly anticipated our current economic climate, they willingly did so. Now they are poised to take that away. It also doesn't matter that Rufus and Arne didn't tell the whole truth. What about the $400 million they have in reserves???? The biggest disappointment was the published response to that article came from a woman deeply involved in charter schools and not a peep from our president.
This latest debacle within the leadership of the CTU is a glaring example of how cronyism and the corporate greed model have ruined a once-strong union. This blog is an attempt to allow all educators to vent their frustrations. So forgive us our misspellings and typos, but when you write from the heart you rarely take the time to edit. In addition, English is not the first language for some of our bloggers. Let's not rush to judge.
If you read Rufus and Arne's recent attack on teachers in the Chicago Tribune under the banner headline "What Will We Tell the Children?" you will have seen that CPS cannot balance its budget because it has to pay pensions to reitred teachers. It does not matter that the reason the Board pays such a large portion of the pension is because they gave away that perk in lieu of a substantial raise. Because their economic forecasters could not have possibly anticipated our current economic climate, they willingly did so. Now they are poised to take that away. It also doesn't matter that Rufus and Arne didn't tell the whole truth. What about the $400 million they have in reserves???? The biggest disappointment was the published response to that article came from a woman deeply involved in charter schools and not a peep from our president.
This latest debacle within the leadership of the CTU is a glaring example of how cronyism and the corporate greed model have ruined a once-strong union. This blog is an attempt to allow all educators to vent their frustrations. So forgive us our misspellings and typos, but when you write from the heart you rarely take the time to edit. In addition, English is not the first language for some of our bloggers. Let's not rush to judge.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 10:15 AM
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Realistically speaking, the union has little value at this point for me. I have had a string of personal disappointments trying to exercise my rights through the union--rights which I was able to secure in the end by simply speaking frankly with my superiors--which make me feel intimately the criminality of the union, and nothing that has been written on this blog--let alone the garbage PR published by the union itself--presents me with any reason to hope for better in the future. I glare at every paycheck that lists the theft of my money for my dues.
If CTU continues, even if it reforms, it will have only minimal power and will always be behind the 8-ball in contract negotiations with the city now that destruction of the system has progressed so far. So, looking at this thing like a piece of junk that might have value to someone on ebay, it does seem like there is one useful role the union could still play for both teachers and students in CPS: it could dissolve itself in exchange for major restructuring of CPS--the end of mayoral school control, among other things.
Decentralization of CPS is very far gone; yet an incompetent, corruption-ridden, destructive administration retains control of money and schools. If the union were to fold in exchange for the depoliticization of the Board of Ed., and a moratorium on corporatization of schools, we could make real progress. Kill two birds with one stone.
"If something is teetering, kick it over" F. Nietzsche
If CTU continues, even if it reforms, it will have only minimal power and will always be behind the 8-ball in contract negotiations with the city now that destruction of the system has progressed so far. So, looking at this thing like a piece of junk that might have value to someone on ebay, it does seem like there is one useful role the union could still play for both teachers and students in CPS: it could dissolve itself in exchange for major restructuring of CPS--the end of mayoral school control, among other things.
Decentralization of CPS is very far gone; yet an incompetent, corruption-ridden, destructive administration retains control of money and schools. If the union were to fold in exchange for the depoliticization of the Board of Ed., and a moratorium on corporatization of schools, we could make real progress. Kill two birds with one stone.
"If something is teetering, kick it over" F. Nietzsche
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 11:00 AM
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I strongly disagree with your opinion.We need to preserve the Union by better taking care of our house.Rid of the corruption and start over.
If you have no organized labor who is going to negotiate your rights?
It seems to me that you are not a teacher or PSRP.
You are demonstrating exactly the same point of view like "outside forces"..is it your goal to destroy us right now?Marilyn is doing that very effectively so far..
Solidarity Forever
If you have no organized labor who is going to negotiate your rights?
It seems to me that you are not a teacher or PSRP.
You are demonstrating exactly the same point of view like "outside forces"..is it your goal to destroy us right now?Marilyn is doing that very effectively so far..
Solidarity Forever
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 11:01 AM
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Dear 10:15
All the CTU ever needed was a real leader. That is still the problem
today. Let us take a page from recent municipal elections and destroy
our enemies politically.30,000 disciplined voters are a potent group.
I think we need to target some one who has taken us for granted then stabbed us
in the back come vote time. Vote them out and we are right back in business.
Our present officers are not up to the fight.
All the CTU ever needed was a real leader. That is still the problem
today. Let us take a page from recent municipal elections and destroy
our enemies politically.30,000 disciplined voters are a potent group.
I think we need to target some one who has taken us for granted then stabbed us
in the back come vote time. Vote them out and we are right back in business.
Our present officers are not up to the fight.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 11:16 AM
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I already got subpoena.How about others?I am tired
I AM OUT.
I AM OUT.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM
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Does anyone remember stories about what it was like before the Union? Teachers were at will employees who could be fired without cause. Administration could dictate ridiculous hours and control your outside life as well. Female teachers could not be married. You had to sign a loyalty oath (actually this also happened during my early days teaching too). You could be censored for any behavior that was deemed inappropriate for a teacher (example, a unmarried female teacher not living at home or with a female roommate). You never knew until June if you had a job for the following year and it didn't matter how long you taught. No, I can not see teachers in CPS operating without a Union. It works in some of the suburbs because they are small enough for teachers to negotiate their own contracts each year but Chicago is just too big!
Our solution is to throw out the current administration and elect officials who will truly represent all teachers (including those who have retired) and other stuff and not just think about how much money they can make/take.
Our solution is to throw out the current administration and elect officials who will truly represent all teachers (including those who have retired) and other stuff and not just think about how much money they can make/take.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 2:08 PM
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Who do you think you are fooling by pretending to be an Ex Board member? Giving out false information, about subpoenas is reprehensible. All of the real Exec. Board members have been instructed not to discuss this with anyone, so I know that you, 11:16am,
are not real. Once again you are trying to scare and imtimidate people.
The Judge is receiving copies of all of these postings.
are not real. Once again you are trying to scare and imtimidate people.
The Judge is receiving copies of all of these postings.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM
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Once again, you are writing on this blog pretending to be someone that you aren't. Today you posted as a member of the Executive Board (at 7:16 and again at 11:16).
You don't fool anyone but yourself. I am a 'real" member of the Executive Board and did not receive any subpoena. I won't be intimidated by you or anyone else. I intend to do carry out my responsibilities to those that elected me. Your silly threats are a waste of time. We have been instructed to report any attempts to intimidate us. Be assured, your threats will be reported.
You don't fool anyone but yourself. I am a 'real" member of the Executive Board and did not receive any subpoena. I won't be intimidated by you or anyone else. I intend to do carry out my responsibilities to those that elected me. Your silly threats are a waste of time. We have been instructed to report any attempts to intimidate us. Be assured, your threats will be reported.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 5:31 PM
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When teachers that were laid off and not rehired at the turn around schools, were told they can't be rehired because they haven't been trained to implement the new literacy program that the alternative certified teachers are using. My question is why is'nt the union demanding that all teachers be trained in the new program to prevent further job discrimination in hiring. I cannot get over the double standards in hiring teachers, and unfair labor practices to eliminate veteran teachers and hire new teachers . Are alternative certificated teachers really teachers or substitutes? Last board meeting, Mr. Duncan said he was going to figure out a way to keep his new hires from being bumped, watch what happens next ! We must have state certification yet, The alternative teachers are preferred for hiring even tho they are not highly qualified. As a tax payer in Chicago I find CPS, attitude about hiring from other states and cities disgusting, If candidates outside Chicago are the best and the brightest what does that make the rest of us? The worst and the dullest. I really dislike when they use that to discriminate against the students. Thats a label, and totally insensitive.
Wed Jul 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM
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Hello.You are not only oversensitive but simple fool.
I do not see any description regarding the subpoena...is it related to Monica Levinsky and Cuban cygars..?
Why do you think that there is the only one lawsuit pending in the Cook County..?
I am not sure about your spelling but I am sure about your intellectual development.You have to see professional in the area of the psychiatry....
I do not see any description regarding the subpoena...is it related to Monica Levinsky and Cuban cygars..?
Why do you think that there is the only one lawsuit pending in the Cook County..?
I am not sure about your spelling but I am sure about your intellectual development.You have to see professional in the area of the psychiatry....